So far as southwest China was concerned, he tried to win me over and had serious talks with me in which he said that Comrade Liu Shaoqi was immature. He was trying to persuade me to join in his effort to topple Comrade Liu Shaoqi.

• 对西南，他用拉拢的办法，正式和我谈判，说刘少奇同志不成熟，要争取我和他一起拱倒刘少奇同志。